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Hey Jamie. How you doing? Howdy. How? How, how do y'all,
Jamie:
how do y'all how do, how y'all From, from, from Boston, Texas. Yes,
Kurt:
we would. Has anybody ever called you pitfalls?
Jamie:
Mm, I don't really wanna be called that. No, definitely not, not me. Have you met me in real life? no.
Kurt:
Are you, are you, so are you connoisseur of barbecue, but don't. Make the barbecue. Oh
Jamie:
no, God. I mean, well, I mean, I, I didn't know where you were on Pit Boss. I like, there's so many different connotations for Pit Boss and I didn't know we were gonna go back to the, the, you know, so for those listeners who are like, what the hell were they talking about in episode 1 21? We do have a pre-show that we do live. We're doing this live too. But the live show show gets edited and you know, so the pre-show, there was a whole lot of talk about Texas barbecue. Yep. And so now we're all hungry.
Kurt:
Now we're all hungry. Hangry. Kurt is just 15 minutes.
Jamie:
Kurt's doing something about pork chops. but they're gonna probably be those like thin, thin ones. So, anyhow. Oh, thicker. Good. Better,
Kurt:
good. They're organic. Farm d what do you call it? A grass-fed, sort of organic. No, no, no. Bs you know, on the grill. if, if you get done with this podcast, I can
Jamie:
So do you, do you, do you marinate the pork beforehand? No dry rub seasoning.
Kurt:
you know, I could, I get, I get by with a little dry rub. You know. Danielle's, do you have more than salt and
Jamie:
pepper in the cabinet? yes.
Kurt:
Okay. But if not extensive, you know, Danielle's not a massive spice
Jamie:
mixer. I mean, a good marinade can, can, can really kind of, yeah,
Kurt:
kurta, keep it simple. Keep the marriage together kind of okay.
Jamie:
Okay. Enough.
Kurt:
Less is more. How about that architecture tie in? There you go.
Jamie:
And the pivot is on back, back to architecture and design and, and a little bit of, and a little bit of coffee.
Kurt:
So, so cheers. Yeah. Cheers. Cheers buddy. I like the mug that you got going. We, Jamie, so we can't do free shoutouts anymore. Fyi. People, people now pay for shoutout
Jamie:
Oh. It's a pay to play situation.
Kurt:
And, the reason being I gonna share screen is cause of this. Mm. For those that are just listening in, what I'm sharing screen of is the official Coffee Sketch podcast merch store, and we have t-shirts and mugs at this link@thecofi.com Coffee Sketch podcast slash shop. Shameless plug. but if I don't say it and,
Jamie:
and soon to have, and I'll say, soon to be beans.
Kurt:
True. The beans forthcoming. Coffee beans. Yeah. So the, the, the actual coffee,
Jamie:
I, I'm really hopeful. I am, like Kurt has laid down the law on all this stuff and well,
Kurt:
it's like a, a Pandora's box. You start, you start opening it up and you know, it happens. And, and I just want to point out, you know, the fun part cuz the, the marketing, marketing part is not my favorite, but I get to name the products. And so the t-shirt is called black coffee. So you can buy, you know, a cup of black coffee as a t-shirt.
Jamie:
I like it. It's
Kurt:
the name of the color, black Coffee, And then the mug. Currently the mug is only, is, is currently available just white with our logo because I think it looks rather
Jamie:
handsome. I, I think so. I think it's, it is rather handsome. I mean, you know, we've, we've, we've offline had some discussions about the logo and my, love hate relationship with it. you know, as one does, as a designer, architect, artist, you know, as we all do. But, I, I do say that's a damn fine looking coffee mug.
Yeah.
Kurt:
You know, as the per, as the connoisseur or the, the, the. The affiliate of Jamie. I love the logo and I mean, first try nailed it in my opinion. And so I, I chose, I mean, I, the, the surprise to Jamie was that I set this merch stuff up and so I was like, I want the logo on the mug. I mean, yeah, I get a little bias. So I put the logo on the mug. Look at this picture, this little sample picture, which samples are forthcoming. So, you know, Jamie's gonna have a handful and, and a t-shirt. You know, stuff is, you know, There's some, some stuff in the works, you know, shipping included. So,
Jamie:
I didn't think, I didn't think you were saying shipping. I thought you were gonna say shit's getting real, but that's cool,
Kurt:
Well, it is, that is also true. and,
Jamie:
and, and I might add that the logo is a, is a nice lead in to our sketches, which we'll get to in a moment. But first, first up is the coffee. We are going to San Francisco, buddy.
Kurt:
That's right. Yeah, we're one week away while in a day, I don't know, time zone, stuff like that. Time
Jamie:
zones week away like so Ben, one of our guests, gave us an excellent, recommendation on a coffee joint, that's architecturally related. So I will put the plug in right now for those who are listening and then those who are listening in when we publish this one before convention. Give us some recommendations on some spots you think we should hit up? Yep. Attractive coffee shops,
Kurt:
architectural, you know, the better.
Jamie:
So, so, and tasty. Tasty would be good.
Kurt:
Well, yes. It, yeah. It's, it's a form. Form follows function.
Jamie:
Yes. It's for sure.
Kurt:
So what are you drinking in, in this episode today?
Jamie:
it's the QA Dark Roast. I, you know, giving a little bit of love to, to qa, cuz I've been talking about one of their competitors locally here. Little city, quite a bit. mm-hmm. So decided to go with the qa. Today
Kurt:
sounds, that sounds good. I've got the tail end of the current bag of rootless Damn fine. The, the, the go-to damn fine cup of coffee. And, so I guess the, the, the question mark might be is that, you know, maybe the next thing I'm drinking is something, acquired from either San Francisco or. Rootless. Coffee, sketch coffee. I would
Jamie:
love, like, it would be, it would be amazing. Like if we were able to enjoy coffee, sketch, rootless, collab,
Kurt:
I, I need to do a little check-in, you know? Yeah.
Jamie:
Well, and, and when you do your check-in, I, I do want you to say to them that, that Jamie is going to be going to see, Fire walk with me in the theater. Ooh. You know, especially since you were talking about the damn fine Cup coffee. Right. so, I am, I am going to, I've treated myself, I will be able to attend a screening of that flick in the Texas Theater, which historically is kind of got its own history. At a whole nother level. So it's a whole lot of things. Hell of a way to start your vacation. but it's.
Kurt:
Yeah. Is this the, this is not the Texas Theater in Dallas. Oh yeah. Oh, it is? Oh yeah. I was teasing you about this the other day. you mean like the, you know the Oswald? Oh yeah,
Jamie:
it's, yeah,
Kurt:
it's Lee Harvey Oswald For those, I mean, if you don't know, I don't know where
Jamie:
you we're. It is, it is all the things like. Like I am.
Kurt:
Jamie's gonna walk from the book depository. No, no, no, no. Even better.
Jamie:
Even better. Like Shepherd Ferry has an exhibit in Dallas downtown of some of his original work. So I think there's gonna be like a gallery like, you know, visit and then Texas Theater Fire. Walk with me.
Kurt:
Yeah, well, in, in the, and
Jamie:
and Hmm. And some of the cast from the original series are gonna be Intendance. Oh, cool. Yeah, those are,
Kurt:
that's fun. But the, I, I feel like there's gonna be, you know, I mean, if you have not seen Twin Peaks, there's a lot of voodoo. And I feel like something voodoo's gonna happen that night. It's, it's gonna be weird. It'll be weird. I can't wait to hear the story after. Well, I mean, as long as Jamie doesn't see some ghosts. Yeah. Or maybe he will, I don't know. As long as the ghosts don't take him,
Jamie:
I will check in with you just to make sure.
Kurt:
So I need my co-host. Yeah. Co. Yeah. So, so yeah, so we're, we're heading out to San Fran, so we are trying to squeeze in one little podcast. 1, 1, 1 more episode before we get out the door or on the airplane and embark. which we then we'll be doing, we're gonna try and figure out some live streaming at the conference. I, I haven't even told Jamie this, but I'm going to, try and livestream, my students. So, you know, my, my, my grad students that I'm teaching are night classes, so we're gonna be three hours. Behind. So at four 30 California
Jamie:
time, I'm gonna be doing design reviews, is that what you're saying?
Kurt:
No, not, we're not in a stage of review, but what we are gonna do, this is my concept. I, I'm, I like it. I like it so far. We're gonna interview companies on the expo floor that are relevant to. the subject matter in the classes on teaching. Sweet. That's, that's the idea. And I think I told my students last week, they seem to be into it and there's one, there's definitely a handful. I, or I'm not even gonna talk about it cuz I, I, it, it's gonna take too long. But I'm like, I'm kind of excited about it and I think it's kind of neat. and it, it'll be a fun sort of challenge almost for us to navigate the expo floor
Jamie:
and get, which, I mean, which in it, which I mean for those, for those who've not gone to an architecture convention like the expo floor, I mean, if you've been to any convention, you kind of understand whether it's like, I don't know, bed, bath and Beyond convention or like. ComicCon convention or like movie convention or like, I don't know what else. Bandaids. There you go. So, yeah. Well, conventions. But I think, I think it's, it's just, it's, it's, it's the format, you know? And so the format is, I mean, it could be like, you know, if you're a purveyor of childcare, and I'm sure there's a childcare convention, you know, I mean, So, you know, each one has different consultants, product reps, you know, different people who are kind of ancillary to your industry, who are trying to get your attention, sell you your product, you know, tell you what's new and in innovative and interesting. and for us and kind of our role with the podcast, I think it's, it's a, it's a, it's a great. Forum for us to kind of look at and see what, what is out there, you know, what is new, what is innovative, how does it relate? you know, because a lot of the things that we do talk about on the podcast are, are ones where it, it's a through line. It's it's process driven. So in that process is what are the influences? And if the influences aren't coming from a variety of sources, including industry, then we're kind of missing the boat. So I think the Expo is, is a great opportunity for us to kind of connect with some folks. you know, one of the ones that we've already scheduled, which I'm pretty excited about. Mm-hmm. you know, the two of us use it. A lot, and have used it for a number of years, but probably haven't had this kind of access and conversation is with SketchUp. So we're gonna be talking to SketchUp.
Kurt:
yeah, and I've gotten some emails, you know, they're sort of, newsletter type emails. There's some interesting assets and features that they're including now with a little bit of ai. You know, AI is kind of the big buzz thing right now, and, You know, the, I just acquired an iPad through my grant and so, I just realized that there's a SketchUp, they've built SketchUp for iPad, which I honestly thi think they're the first ones that have a fully fledged design software that's capable for iPad. Well, that's really intriguing
Jamie:
to me. Well, and I, and I think it's, you know, with them and companies like, and apps like Marfo Trace. and, and others, you know, I, I think there is a different kind of workflow that you can kind of experiment with. I mean, again, it, at the end of the day, it's time talent. right? And you know, how much time are you gonna put into something? How much talent are you gonna do? You know, how much are you bringing to the table? You know, who are you collaborating with? And then, you know, you know, the, the, the adage is time, talent, treasure. And I mean, in my, in my mind sort of treasure is, you know, what software, you know, what asset can you purchase a acquire, get access to? that's gonna help you. And so if it's an app like, you know, sketch up, you know, on an iPad or Lio Trace or some kind of different workflow that you're, you know, experimenting with. That's, you know, that's important. And it's something that I think that between the two of us, we we're, we're right at the fulcrum of, I mean, it's, it's, it's definitely the way we think about our own work mm-hmm. and whether it's experimental or, you know, pure production based. and so I'm, I'm looking forward to it. You know, this is sort of our, our time to go experiment and, and experiment with the podcast as well. Yeah,
Kurt:
it'll be fun too. This idea of like sharing is my whole point of trying to include my students in on the conversation in a live format. So we'll see. I don't know if anybody else is kind of trying that out, but I think it'll be kind of fun. No, no, for sure. It could be a complete disaster or it could be a complete success. So That's the whole point. No, no reward if no risk taken.
Jamie:
Right. Well, I mean that's, you know, and, and I think that that's sort of the fun part of, you know, kind of our approach to all this. you know, we were kind of, you know, joking and we've been joking. We've having this banter back and forth, about different architecture and architecture adjacent people that we know. and it, it's sort of, you don't necessarily wanna dip into other people's conversations cause that's bad form. But then at the same time, like there's, there's other conversations that are kind of out there that you're getting influenced by, you know, in, in social channels. And so, I think the question that I would have for you is, is like, okay, if we're gonna talk to your students on the podcast, How are they gonna, how are they in turn gonna share it with other people, you know, you know, whether they're with, with their classmates or with other colleagues, other peers. Because I think that that's kind of the, that's the end game for some of this for us, is that not to, it's not about reach for the podcast, it's about sort of content. and I think if we've had this sort of experimentation with content, And conversation. You know what? I wanna sort of see what the feedback loop is.
Kurt:
Well, I'll to be continued. Yeah. Because it's gonna be interesting. And so now it's just the, the stress of like, okay, how does the tech work? So we'll figure it
Jamie:
out. I I, I love how you bring it back to that cuz you're just like, yeah, my inbox is starting to fill up as we speak. The stress. I can just, I don't even wanna look at the numbers.
Kurt:
So, here, well before I got, cuz I got a, I got a unfortunate timeline here before the hangs kick in. So we're gonna dive right into a couple of sketches. Short and sweet. because this is the week before the conference oldies, but not oldies, but goodies, old subject, new sketches,
Jamie:
old subject, new sketches, and a tie-in back to the. You know, OG logo, True. So, I mean, you know, if, if for those who are kind of, you know, if, if anyone has ever dissected the logo, with any, you know, anything more than three seconds of a scan of it, it is absolutely the building on the right. it is Vecchio Carlos Carpa. anyone who went to architecture school, if they did not encounter this building at some point in their careers, you probably need to go check yourself with a refund on that degree. only, only because I think that his work is such a touchstone for the idea of process. Yeah, and, and I think that any architecture professor who turns around and, and introduces this subject matter to their students at some point, that's usually what the conversation is talking about is this is the idea of process and, and you can enter it and enter his story kind of at a multitude of different points of view. But it all, you know, ultimately it gets to Castle Veo, or the Oli store in Venice. Mm-hmm. you know, as, as sort of the two, you know, preeminent. You know, works of his. the other sketch is one that I really didn't know much about until recently. And, and from time to time I'll kind of, you know, go back to some old favorites and sort of see if there's other buildings that I'm, I'm not as familiar with. And so this is one of his, in Florence.
Kurt:
I love the sketch. Cause at first, I mean, it's one that I haven't. been aware of either, and so you have this interesting sort of brick facade and these two portals, these diamond shaped portals through a brick wall or, you know, I don't know if you're, is it a, a collage or is that actually the way the form is with a sort of opening to something beyond
Jamie:
There's an opening to something beyond That's a, yeah, which is cool. Yeah, it's, it's a hotel in, in Florence. probably not in our price range. Just getting that out there.
Kurt:
people buy enough merch. We might, we might be able pull that off.
Jamie:
that black coffee
Kurt:
Don't just get one, get one t-shirts. How many t-shirts Jamie is it gonna take to get us? There
Jamie:
are seven days in a week, you know, so. That's right.
Kurt:
That's right. We can do it. Never say never, but yeah, the sketch is great because, it, it, you know, Scarpa stuff, I was taught Scarpa by my first year instructor because of the, the, some aspects of minimalism, abstraction. and how formed does sort of emerge from, from a sketch, like a sketching process, really a sort of thinking, you know, the process and, and honestly, you know, Scarpa was, I, I don't wanna say ahead of his time in the sense that like, You know, deconstructivists or modernist architecture is now, but it's influenced by Scarpa and, and, and almost any, any Scarpa building could sort of live. I mean, anything that lives on is definitely a, a quality and timeless. Sort of design, synthesis. I guess without trying, I'm trying to avoid too much jargon. Well sort of emulate or express like the.
Jamie:
the geometries are really simple. You know, it, it's, it's not trying to overthink the geometry. And so that's why like I, I mean I saw this image of this courtyard space and these two interlocking forms and I was like, I've never seen him do that before, but absolutely was not surprised that it was his work. It reminded me of the two interlocking circles that are, at the grave site. in, I'm gonna get it wrong now cuz I just, you know, the Breon Cemetery and I can't think of the name of the city cuz it's in between Venice and Barona. it's not Venza, but it's near Venza. anyhow, the Brion Cemetery, there's, there's a, a very. iconic image of two interlocking circles, kind of two, almost like an infinity kind of symbol, on it, on its side. And, and this reminded me of that kind of articulation of two pure geometries, you know, in a sketch. And it's, it's totally different space. but it's this sort of same level of how do I make an opening and a wall? How do I do it in a way that is artistic in nature, but well crafted, you know, and, and, and how, how do I pick up those material transitions so that the craft of not me as the architect or the designer who's putting pencil to paper, but that the person in the field who's gonna execute this really gets to, you know, really execute it. and I think that that's the thing about Scarpa's work. That's that's so. Timeless to me is that, you know, I mean if you look at his drawings, they're gorgeous. I mean, they, you know, beautiful drawings, watercolors, you know, mixed media, you know, a variety of different techniques that he employs to kind of convey and kind of work through a drawing and an image. But then in the work itself, it's, it's sort of, it's the execution of it, like you're saying. It's, it's not, it's not overwrought. it's, you know, a stone is a stone. A piece of metal is a piece of metal. You know, a brick is a brick. and it's sort of that, you know, how do those things meet in this new way that the architect is envisioning that that's where, you know, the real creativity kind of lies. And I think that that's the beauty, you know, in his work. That's fascinated me for sure. But I think it's, it's one where, I, I think it's, personally, I think it's interesting that your first year design instructor was kind of introducing you to him. I didn't recognize him, you know, probably for another year and a half in, in my architecture curriculum. and, and then was fortunate enough to go to Italy and, and see some of this work in person. and at that point it was like, I, I couldn't get enough of it.
Kurt:
Yeah. And, and, and actually too, you know, with the, the, the choice of material, like you were saying, your sketch on the left, which introduces some vegetation, is a, is a great contrast of, of natural, or at least let's say, You know, natural in the sense of the, the plant life and then the, the masonry and the, the sort of constructed, I guess the building forms and things like that and how these things can live together. I mean, it's really fun to see the, the sketch on the left as a new building. To us, or you know, to me, having not really been very familiar with it is, you know, fun to see the, the sort of looseness of, or the suggestion of the brick wall and then a little bit of vegetation, like a weed a weed growing next to the, the slab of concrete or something. Well, I mean, that was the thing is give it some.
Jamie:
Dimension and you really could feel like you could be there, you know, these little, these little vignettes. And admittedly, I, I, I scoured trying to find lots and lots of images of this particular building. and so I don't know how much of it's been changed, you know, cuz I mean, He, he passed away a long time ago. so I don't know how much has changed of his work, you know, since then. but even with, even for, for, for folks who aren't necessarily, you know, super familiar with Scarpa, maybe they've heard of him, maybe they're not architectural aficionados or. Or architects who are listening to this. If you think about stories that you've heard about Frank Lloyd Wright, where Frank Lloyd Wright would design, someone's house and then they would design the. The furniture. So they would design, he'd designed the house he designed where the dining room is. He designed the dining, dining room table. He'd also designed the plates for that d that dining room table and the silverware. Right. And, you know, it, it would be, you know, all the way down to that, that detail. Scarpa had those same kind of moments in his career. Not to, not to, obviously not to the same extent, but, it's that sort of exploration of material. And craft, that was, that's really present in his buildings that he would do in smaller pieces like sconces and, you know, door handles and, you know, things that of a completely different scale. And what, what I liked about this, you know, little vignette in this courtyard in this hotel was sort of what you're, you're getting at is, you know, you could imagine being in that space. You know, these plants are sort of growing up around and living in and amidst his architecture. And that's, you know, and Castle Vecchio, you know, the sketch on the right that is our logo, is the same thing I've been, I've spent probably more time in that building and staring at that building than any other architect that I've ever studied. And so
Kurt:
I wouldn't, I wouldn't even doubt that, you know? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was, I was saying, or I was interrupting I wouldn't even doubt that. Cast Delvechio has an extreme influence on a lot of filmmakers that we're fans of as well, which I know we've weaved into conversations in the past here and there, you know, but, Volume and space, I mean, and light quality and you know, shade, shadow, things like that. I mean, all the things that we kind of constantly talk about. But, it's always fun to kind of. Talk about Scarpa anytime because it, it, there's so much time as passed, say from our practicing generation to when he was in practice at least. Well, you and me. Right? Right. And so,
Jamie:
well, I mean, the other thing about Veo for folks who've seen the image on the right, you know, either in a photograph or one of my sketches, cause I do sketch it a lot, even from this vantage point or multiple vantage points. I mean, this is the, this is the fissure, this is the breakaway point in the building. You know, this is where the building sort of dissolves against the century's old wall, you know? And so, it's a, it's an interesting kind of vertical access point, but thing that I haven't sketched as much, I have done some sketches. Maybe we'll drop'em in the chat of the exhibits in inside the museum. I mean, in the gallery spaces, the way a century's old art piece is hung and displayed is equally as amazing as the space that it's inhabiting. And all of that is attributed to Scarpa. So it's, it's, it's not just the building, it's, it's the way one experiences the space, so mm-hmm. You know, circling back to your point about the, the plants in the garden. Yeah. It's, I, I wanna believe you know, that he was thinking about those things.
Kurt:
Yeah, I, oh yeah. I wouldn't doubt it. And, yeah, we can It's one of those things that like, it's like a sweater unraveling. We could keep going, forever, but I would like to leave it there only on purpose and not because pork chops have to be cooked.
Jamie:
is this cause of the mystery? The mystery is that we're gonna talk about the mystery.
Kurt:
Oh, gosh, no. You reminded me before I was gonna leave it, but I do wanna, let's pivot to the mystery. Okay. But also, just keeping it short like this to, to leave a little intrigue. It is really the mystery to create that intrigue, to attract more people to kind of look at Scarpa's work and think about the spaces. And definitely if you have a chance to get there, go see these spaces. but Yes. Yes. I'll pitch it back to you. I forgot about
Jamie:
So, so from a mystery standpoint, You know, when the two of us are online and we've been online on multiple channels for a long time, you know, dipping in and out of architecture communities, and we, we, we talked about that about a little bit at the beginning of the show, and we're gonna go to the convention here in a moment, but of late, you know, as some of the social channels have pivoted, you know, and kind of, you know, waned and waxed in terms of, you know, who's on and how much real good conversation and content there is. if, if you've been a diehard and stayed with the Twitters, for any length of time, you might have noticed that there's sort of a, we'll call it a subreddit kind of community of folks who are, I wanna say sort of championing the good fight of, you know, you know, that architecture does matter, that design does matter. and that people at their core are trying hard. Oh, are, are we looking for the dog? Is there a dog?
Kurt:
No, she's over there. Okay.
Jamie:
The cat is totally sound asleep now, but, and I have no idea where Tink is. No, no. Tins, tins out cold. so all that being said, When you discover these anonymous personalities who've not outed themselves, do you have guesses? Do you have guesses about who these people are? Do we know them? Oh,
Kurt:
yeah. I mean, I don't know if I, well, you and I guess,
Jamie:
we guess we can't, I don't wanna say on the, don't, don't, don't. Stone stole
Kurt:
Kurt. Kurt won't, don't. Kurt Mystery is the mystery. Yeah. Okay. But it is fun to, to wonder. The voice? What is the voice?
Jamie:
Well, I mean, so like, it, it's, it's, yeah, I mean, cause there's a, a persona that's being generated, similar to the way the coffee sketch, like Twitter account has its own persona, but, but it's two people who were, you know, So that's kind of fun. Right? But if we're, if we're, if we're playing detective, right? Like is that healthy? Like, like like is it like, is it time for like Scooby in the gang to like. Start, you know,
Kurt:
well, well, I, I, I think a week. A week will tell in a week. Okay. Okay.
Jamie:
So, so I
Kurt:
think cause what Scooby do and the gang, you have to go on site to solve the mystery. Right, right, right. We can't do it from, from the internet.
Jamie:
Right. Well, and, and I mean, and what were you saying about Batman? I mean, like,
Kurt:
Right. If you were to, you know, if you know, if you know it's Bruce Wayne, do you go up to Bruce Wayne and say, I know you're a Batman? Hmm. So we have some,
Jamie:
some thought. So I think, I think we have a guess at, at who, you know, the, the real hustle architect is. and many have, many have tried to guess, And then the guessing stopped cuz everyone was just sort of impressed by the sheer amount of analysis and volume that this person has put out, to further conversations on a multitude of subjects, which I will say that, the two of us have appreciated and, and digested and discussed though not on the podcast. but yeah, we still have a guess. The MR.
Kurt:
Machines going to San Francisco and the, and the mystery
Jamie:
machines going San Francisco.
Kurt:
And we'll, we'll, yeah. So we'll follow up, up on that one. in due time. Due time. But anyway, so Jamie, thanks for, populating our, our feed with a couple of new Scarpa sketches. It's always fun to explore. I, I, I, I did find an image of that hotel building and now I'm gonna keep going offline and kind of follow this rabbit hole into more Scarpa. So I'll see you in a week, man.
Jamie:
Yeah, good times. Thanks buddy. Talk to you later.
